TPMS sensor malfunction after wheel swap? (1 Viewer)

[Snooperstyle]

Got my new wheels mounted five days ago. I had the tire shop transfer the sensors from the stock rims to the new ones, but I noticed they used rubber valve stems, and not the stock aluminum ones. Not sure that matters. So, the wheels were in the truck awaiting my lift between Wednesday and Sunday. No errors the whole time. Now today I’m driving and I get an error saying the TPMS system is malfunctioning. Says this in the truck and in my Lexus app. See pic of app error. Am I gonna get hosed on this?

 

[F90Guy]

Had the same issue, after 5 mins, they were working fine. I performed "registration of new wheels" and "set current pressure". Registration took probably 40 mins of driving. So far been working fine. I changed my wheels out and bought OEM sensors.

 

[yotanoob]

Curious on updates on this? About to swap wheels and unsure whether to buy new sensors or transfer the old (got some good PN's on another thread). Seems either could cause issues....

@F90Guy which did you buy?

 

[Snooperstyle]

I never changed sensors. Just changed wheels and put them into new wheels. They were working fine for a few days and then they did this. So I don’t understand why it even knows I changed wheels. Owners manual says drive 25mph for like 30 min. WTF. So dumb. Only thing I can think is the stupid tire shop got rid of the aluminum outer part of the valve stem. Is it possible they compromised the sensors?

 

[F90Guy]

Curious on updates on this? About to swap wheels and unsure whether to buy new sensors or transfer the old (got some good PN's on another thread). Seems either could cause issues....

@F90Guy which did you buy?

I got new OEM sensors online, its the cheapest way. I want to keep the stock OEM wheel set intact. Pricey but more convenient down the road. So far no issue other than what I've mentioned.

 

[Snooperstyle]

I get this screen for eternity even if I drive for over 30 minutes.

 

[munkeeboi]

From what I remember when i got new wheels (new TPMS units), I kept doing the new tire registration at every start and eventually it stuck after the 3rd drive i took. I kept getting the TPMS malfunction as well, but they eventually registered.

 

[killy]

So I don’t know if this is helpful but…

Took a nail and got a flat a few weeks back, nbd swapped the spare on and haven’t gotten around to fixing the spare yet so it’s in my garage.

Weird thing though, now my TPMS won’t detect when prior it saw all 5 wheels no problem.

I happened to have my car into the dealer for a 1 mo checkup and asked them to look into it. I guess the logic in the system requires all 5 wheels to have the TPMS installed in them for the system to work. He say he could adjust the system to only look for 4 if I wanted which I passed on.

I haven’t fixed the spare yet but maybe that is helpful for you? Do you have 5 wheels installed with TPMS all around? Becuase if even 1 is missing it won’t work.

I pointed out the bad logic of this to the service manager… namely if even one sensor dies the whole system won’t work lol

 

[Snooperstyle]

So I don’t know if this is helpful but…

Took a nail and got a flat a few weeks back, nbd swapped the spare on and haven’t gotten around to fixing the spare yet so it’s in my garage.

Weird thing though, now my TPMS won’t detect when prior it saw all 5 wheels no problem.

I happened to have my car into the dealer for a 1 mo checkup and asked them to look into it. I guess the logic in the system requires all 5 wheels to have the TPMS installed in them for the system to work. He say he could adjust the system to only look for 4 if I wanted which I passed on.

I haven’t fixed the spare yet but maybe that is helpful for you? Do you have 5 wheels installed with TPMS all around? Becuase if even 1 is missing it won’t work.

I pointed out the bad logic of this to the service manager… namely if even one sensor dies the whole system won’t work lol

This is indeed helpful. My spare is just in the trunk at the moment, and not under the truck. Would it be possible that it thinks the spare isn’t there?

 

[killy]

This is indeed helpful. My spare is just in the trunk at the moment, and not under the truck. Would it be possible that it thinks the spare isn’t there?

I’d say it’s worth a try

 

[killy]

So I don’t know if this is helpful but…

Took a nail and got a flat a few weeks back, nbd swapped the spare on and haven’t gotten around to fixing the spare yet so it’s in my garage.

Weird thing though, now my TPMS won’t detect when prior it saw all 5 wheels no problem.

I happened to have my car into the dealer for a 1 mo checkup and asked them to look into it. I guess the logic in the system requires all 5 wheels to have the TPMS installed in them for the system to work. He say he could adjust the system to only look for 4 if I wanted which I passed on.

I haven’t fixed the spare yet but maybe that is helpful for you? Do you have 5 wheels installed with TPMS all around? Becuase if even 1 is missing it won’t work.

I pointed out the bad logic of this to the service manager… namely if even one sensor dies the whole system won’t work lol

Just to follow up. Finally got some free time to go borrow equipment at my uncles shop while it was quiet and fixed my tire.

Cranked the spare into position and boom everything is working again.

 

[Roman]

Hey guys, want to bump this topic.
I just bought and installed 4 OT wheels and tires on my premium plus. Drove for two days with no issues and today after a second (>30 min) drive, the malfunction message appeared. My tire sensor light came on and the setting tell me the system malfunction contact dealer... My spare is still a premium plus, only changed the 4 OT driving wheels. I assume if the OT wheels didn't have the sensors, I would have gotten the error days ago...

 

[ninjaboym5]

I get this screen for eternity even if I drive for over 30 minutes.
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You probably need to drive on the freeway for at least 30 minutes if not longer. I had that for two weeks before I went on an hour drive on the freeway and it finally read the psi

 

[MBearGX]

I've been stuck in this mode for 3 weeks now. I replaced the OEM wheels and tires. New TPMS sensors from Dill were installed as well. I took the GX to the dealer have the register the new codes. I left the dealership and 3 weeks later I still have a message that says Identifying each wheel and position. Most of my trips have been around town. But I did take 2 trips on the interstate to the lake. Each trip is 1 hour unstopped each direction. No change :-( I guess it's time to take another visit to my local Lexus dealership.

 

[jpto]

I've been stuck in this mode for 3 weeks now. I replaced the OEM wheels and tires. New TPMS sensors from Dill were installed as well. I took the GX to the dealer have the register the new codes. I left the dealership and 3 weeks later I still have a message that says Identifying each wheel and position. Most of my trips have been around town. But I did take 2 trips on the interstate to the lake. Each trip is 1 hour unstopped each direction. No change :-( I guess it's time to take another visit to my local Lexus dealership.

IMO the dealer should've directly programmed the new TPMS codes vs activating the self-learn function, you could have done that at home through the menus and if your dealer charged you for that it's a bid shady.

I have a TPMS tool since I do the seasonal tire swaps for my family at home, in my experience the self learning function on Toyota's is a bit hit or miss. TPMS registration through OBD/computer works instantly.

 

[cmfhsu]

Hey guys, want to bump this topic.
I just bought and installed 4 OT wheels and tires on my premium plus. Drove for two days with no issues and today after a second (>30 min) drive, the malfunction message appeared. My tire sensor light came on and the setting tell me the system malfunction contact dealer... My spare is still a premium plus, only changed the 4 OT driving wheels. I assume if the OT wheels didn't have the sensors, I would have gotten the error days ago...

If your old wheels & TPMS sensors are within range of the vehicle when you start it, it takes 20-30 minutes of driving for the vehicle to recognize that it's lost TPMS signals and throw an error. This is what happened with my car, since my OE wheels sit in the garage next to the GX.

If you believe you have TPMS sensors, then you simply need to register them with the vehicle through the infotainment. New genuine Toyota sensors won't auto-learn, unlike aftermarket sensors which clone an existing sensor ID.

 

[cmfhsu]

I'll also leave a link to my post in your other thread, MBearGX, detailing the exact process I used to get my wheels registered within 5 minutes of driving: TPMS Sensors not recognizing after OEM OT wheel swap

In summary, here's the requirements as I understand them, to get new TPMS sensors successfully registered:

• All 5 tires, including the spare, must be installed, with 5 working & initialized TPMS sensors, and the spare must be installed in the factory location
• Before starting the learning procedure, the vehicle must have been fully off for at least 15 minutes - even turning the ignition on without pressing the brake pedal resets this timer, I believe
  • If you accidentally turned on the ignition or engine, you've got to wait 15 minutes again from scratch once you turn off the vehicle, so make sure you're ready to start the initialization once you start your car
• Put the vehicle in Drive and be prepared to pull away immediately, then start the learning process from the infotainment. Don't start the learning process, then put the vehicle in reverse, because it resets the learning process from scratch.
• After starting the learning process, drive away immediately
• Make sure your route allows you to drive "at least 25mph, with occasional left and right turns"

 

[Roman]

I'll also leave a link to my post in your other thread, MBearGX, detailing the exact process I used to get my wheels registered within 5 minutes of driving: TPMS Sensors not recognizing after OEM OT wheel swap

In summary, here's the requirements as I understand them, to get new TPMS sensors successfully registered:

• All 5 tires, including the spare, must be installed, with 5 working & initialized TPMS sensors, and the spare must be installed in the factory location
• Before starting the learning procedure, the vehicle must have been fully off for at least 15 minutes - even turning the ignition on without pressing the brake pedal resets this timer, I believe
  • If you accidentally turned on the ignition or engine, you've got to wait 15 minutes again from scratch once you turn off the vehicle, so make sure you're ready to start the initialization once you start your car
• Put the vehicle in Drive and be prepared to pull away immediately, then start the learning process from the infotainment. Don't start the learning process, then put the vehicle in reverse, because it resets the learning process from scratch.
• After starting the learning process, drive away immediately
• Make sure your route allows you to drive "at least 25mph, with occasional left and right turns"

Thanks for the write-up. All very good points and exactly what was happening to me that my old wheels were in the garage and the car was sensing them initially... I took my GX to the dealer and they could not locate or connect to the sensors that are (technically) supposed to be in the OEM OT wheels. I will have to remove the rubber and see if they are there or just swap our my originals back to the OT wheels which will be the best option as they are already linked to the car.
This is going to cost double but unfortunately, don't have any other choice...

 

[MBearGX]

IMO the dealer should've directly programmed the new TPMS codes vs activating the self-learn function, you could have done that at home through the menus and if your dealer charged you for that it's a bid shady.

I have a TPMS tool since I do the seasonal tire swaps for my family at home, in my experience the self learning function on Toyota's is a bit hit or miss. TPMS registration through OBD/computer works instantly.

I did try going to press through the menus a couple of times before going to the dealer and asking them to program the new TPMS. It wasn't immediate and they said I should drive around and it would eventually register them. No luck so far.

 

[cmfhsu]

Thanks for the write-up. All very good points and exactly what was happening to me that my old wheels were in the garage and the car was sensing them initially... I took my GX to the dealer and they could not locate or connect to the sensors that are (technically) supposed to be in the OEM OT wheels. I will have to remove the rubber and see if they are there or just swap our my originals back to the OT wheels which will be the best option as they are already linked to the car.
This is going to cost double but unfortunately, don't have any other choice...

Same with the wheels I bought, but kind member DaveK was upfront about it. Sorry to hear about that disappointment.

Cheap rubber valve stems will be wiggly when you try to bend them, whereas genuine TPMS valve stems are pretty stiff and unbendable. Other than that, I think it's pretty hard to tell if you have TPMS sensors