Does anyone know if the 2025 Overtrail 1" Suspension Lift is due to any problems with the 2024 Overtrails.
Mike
Mike
Overtrail 1" Suspension Lift
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Iām guessing itās more about bench racing in magazine comparison than anything.
A way to print better off road capability stats while changing almost nothing.
1ā suspension lift isnāt going to change much, and there are other much more impactful changes you could chase if you want to improve capability.
A way to print better off road capability stats while changing almost nothing.
1ā suspension lift isnāt going to change much, and there are other much more impactful changes you could chase if you want to improve capability.
Search: āOvertrail Vibrationā
Do you have any evidence that the 2025 lift is related to that?
Purely speculative
I have an OT+ and zero vibration
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The one thing different between the different variations is that the Overtrails have EKDSS.
I wonder if that's one of the reasons for the 1" lift only on the Overtrails.
I wonder if that's one of the reasons for the 1" lift only on the Overtrails.
Thats a weird question, for one what problems do Overtrails have and what kind of problems can a 1inch lift solve. Still same approach/departure angles
Not a weird question. Read the Overtrail Vibration thread. Lexus has been pretty consistently saying that "these trucks just ride like this" to all the folks who have brought them in for ride quality and/or vibration issues. If they add a lift, then they would likely use a different spring and shock. In theory, they could redesign the new suspension to be softer in the ride zone. On the flip side, I am not convinced the ride quality issues are indeed caused by the shocks alone. I think it's the eKDSS or something else with the frame and how it transfers the vibrations into the cab.
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Ahh, are we on to something here?
I don't have any ride issues. The hood fluttering is a bit annoying though.
'something else..' perhaps the Toyo AT tires the culprit?
The 8.x inch ground clearance of '24 GX is on lowish side; especially, if trim name is Overtrail. My 5th gen 4unner has approx 9.6"(stock). So I definitely can see Lexus increasing height for due cause.
What's interesting, the '25 GX overtrail is slated to have onboard air compressor and prewired aux switches as standard equipment.
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Ground clearance is not just tied to higher suspension. What is the lowest point on these trucks? Typically itās the differential. Springing the truck higher wonāt lift the diff, only taller tires will.
I think this quote above is the chief reason for the 1" lift.
Itās hilarious how few people understand this
It was a little loaded, but its not to offend. I have an OT+ and yes I know about vibration first hand. My point it feels like its the nature of suspension and not a "problem" or defect. Yes I've noticed the suspension transfers vibrations into the cabin under certain conditions, I have 285/75R17 tires, KO3, so more aggressive but waaaay meatier. At slow speed driving it does a great job of going over mild bumps, for example pulling out of my driveway where the driveway transition to street pavemetn, there is a natural dip, my 2016 GX and my 22 4R PRO for reference have a noticeable thump there, while GX just eats it up closer to what Raptor would. Going over speed bumps, same thing, eats them up better than the Fox Shocks on the 4Runner.
But going over tar lines, small imperfections at medium speed is where it transfers those vibrations into the cabin, even in comfort setting. Yes I would love if they can fix it in the future models. But I do not think its a big issue and something I will get used to. I do not make excuse for those who experience hard vibrations akin to having defective unbalanced tires. Until we get massive overbuilt shocks and suspension of Ford Raptor, it will never have that balance of ruggedness and on the street performance. You want better off-road performance, its going to suffer on road. The GX460 was comfy on road, but it was terrible off-road for example.
