19.1 after 500 miles. 40/60 city highway. I'm happy. Was expecting the worst.
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Because it only had 5 mi on it, come on man!It was 50/50 highway/city driving and I reset it as soon as I left dealership bc it was reading 8 mpg.
Definitely some truth to that logic. Additionally, the weight of the wheel tire combo seems to make a difference. I just replaced my stock OT Toyo tires on the stock rims and I'm seeing some mileage impact as well. The stock tires are 32.6 inches tall, my new 275/70/18 tires are 33.2 inches tall, but the weight also went from 43lbs per tire stock, to 50lbs per tire new. I can't feel any performance difference and the new tires, Firestone Destination XTs, ride very smooth. However, my MPGs seems to have dropped from about 17.5 on average over 14k miles, to 15.4 on my first tank with the new treads. Based on the aforementioned logic, it's actually slightly better than that because I went slightly further than the odometer reads, but it does still seem to be affecting it some. I would expect that the Premium and Luxury tire and rim combos are lighter and may improve mileage due to reduced rotational mass and overall weight.My theory still stands that the people posting the best mileage have the Premium (+) model on stock 20's, but it's due to a false speedometer reading and not because the GX is living up to it's mileage claims.
The stock tire sizes are as follows.
Premium 20" - 265/55/20 - 31.5"
Luxury 22" - 265/50/22 - 32.4"
OT 18" - 265/70/18 - 32.6"
The diameter of the Premium 20" is 3.4% (~1") smaller than the OT tire and approximately has 22 more tire revolutions per mile (per tirecalculator.com)
if we assume that all GX speedo's are calibrated the same, the Premium wheel is giving a higher speed and mileage reading than it has actually gone. The negative is that you have a mpg higher than what you really have and worse, your odometer is adding miles quicker than it should.
Thoughts? Is that tire size delta enough to make a difference?
Your speedo's going to be off by about 3%, while not huge, it's going to impact MPG. I wonder how much the OT wheels weigh vs Premium+ wheels, my gut is saying the OT wheels + the AT/4W's are going to be heavier than the Premium+ setup.I have 10k miles on my Premium+ since November. Up until about a month ago I was getting reliably 19/20 mpg, even got 21 mpg on a road trip. About a month ago I took off the 20" wheels and Geolander tiers and put on Overtrail 18"s and Wildpeak A/T4w's in 265/70/18 and I'm getting 18 mpg now, 19 if I'm lucky.
I know my speed is going to be faster than reported but I didn't think about the mileage before you mentioned it. Maybe no hit on MPG then. I wonder if Lexus will ever allow the speedometer to be recalibrated.Your speedo's going to be off by about 3%, while not huge, it's going to impact MPG. I wonder how much the OT wheels weigh vs Premium+ wheels, my gut is saying the OT wheels + the AT/4W's are going to be heavier than the Premium+ setup.
You don't think they change calibration for the different size tires? That is worrisome if they don't because of the extra mileage and speed being off.My theory still stands that the people posting the best mileage have the Premium (+) model on stock 20's, but it's due to a false speedometer reading and not because the GX is living up to it's mileage claims.
The stock tire sizes are as follows.
Premium 20" - 265/55/20 - 31.5"
Luxury 22" - 265/50/22 - 32.4"
OT 18" - 265/70/18 - 32.6"
The diameter of the Premium 20" is 3.4% (~1") smaller than the OT tire and approximately has 22 more tire revolutions per mile (per tirecalculator.com)
if we assume that all GX speedo's are calibrated the same, the Premium wheel is giving a higher speed and mileage reading than it has actually gone. The negative is that you have a mpg higher than what you really have and worse, your odometer is adding miles quicker than it should.
Thoughts? Is that tire size delta enough to make a difference?
that's my assumptionYou don't think they change calibration for the different size tires? That is worrisome if they don't because of the extra mileage and speed being off.
What is your range now? Mine went from 299 to 275 after changing to 285/75R17.Posting another update after adding 35" Toyo's...13.3 MPG and dropping. Definitely heading toward an average in the 12's.