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I was worried about noise when you start removing the trim that deflects air from the front suspension components
NYTOP Hybrid Bumper - anyone have it?
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I would think any increased air turbulence down there is negligible. I've put aftermarket steel bumpers on 3 trucks now and never noticed any noise increase. This GX will be the 4th truck and I'm not worried about it at all.
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If da Bluegill no worry - me no worry mon!
FWIW, I've only had experience with one bumper mod, and I can't tell that it made any difference in noise.
Would negatively affect gas mileage, never heard about noise.
I wonder how much it will affect mileage? I guess I can see what I get over the next couple months and then compare it when I put it on the truck, but I'm afraid too many variables to really know (unless the impact was huge, which I can't imagine it would be).
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Likes ‘never heard about noise’
Anyone have anything other than NYTop front bumper? I'd like to have a winch in there.
You can take a look at CBI Offroad, Dissent Offroad, and JW Offroad. I believe two members have ordered from JW but haven't received the items yet.
I have ordered the JW Offroad front bumper, but there seems to be a delay in the shipping of the first batch.
My uneducated answer is that it shouldn't impact crash ratings, BoF trucks don't have crumple zones in the same way unibody vehicles do. If you look under your GX you'll see the frame is pretty close to the front of the vehicle, the plastic and aluminum bumper you replace isn't doing too much.
BoF trucks don't score well in crash tests, however, my buddy who is an automotive engineer says BoF trucks are actually safer in a crash involving lighter unibody vehicles, the unibody cars will act as your crumple zone. His advice is get the heaviest BoF truck you can and don't crash into stationary objects. Again I don't know if this is true but adding more mass to the bumper would help with this logic
Hi, you have zeroed in on the issue I was thinking about. Removing plastic was never a concern, it was whether putting on a different bumper, particularly one with a lot of non-crumpling mass (like a big steel bumper with a big winch), would affect the crash characteristics. I didn't like the idea of even removing the stock aluminum crash bar that is under the plastic, but the NYTOP hybrid bumper leaves it alone so that isn't an issue with it. Your point about 'don't crash into a stationary object' is the key one. Hitting another lighter car isn't my concern. It's the tree or bridge abutmentMy uneducated answer is that it shouldn't impact crash ratings, BoF trucks don't have crumple zones in the same way unibody vehicles do. If you look under your GX you'll see the frame is pretty close to the front of the vehicle, the plastic and aluminum bumper you replace isn't doing too much.
BoF trucks don't score well in crash tests, however, my buddy who is an automotive engineer says BoF trucks are actually safer in a crash involving lighter unibody vehicles, the unibody cars will act as your crumple zone. His advice is get the heaviest BoF truck you can and don't crash into stationary objects. Again I don't know if this is true but adding more mass to the bumper would help with this logic
.I know it's not 100% fool proof but the active safety features of the GX has me a lot less worried about hitting stationary objects, knock on wood that we never have to use themHi, you have zeroed in on the issue I was thinking about. Removing plastic was never a concern, it was whether putting on a different bumper, particularly one with a lot of non-crumpling mass (like a big steel bumper with a big winch), would affect the crash characteristics. I didn't like the idea of even removing the stock aluminum crash bar that is under the plastic, but the NYTOP hybrid bumper leaves it alone so that isn't an issue with it. Your point about 'don't crash into a stationary object' is the key one. Hitting another lighter car isn't my concern. It's the tree or bridge abutment
Me too. I've only driven mine for 219 miles so far, but I like the way they operated on the interstate.
Got my order in for the NYTOP Hybrid bumper, Al version. I guess it will be a bit of a wait. My only need now that I haven't ordered is a roof rack that will not make a lot of noise. Wescott seems to be described by folks as pretty quiet.
I couldn't even tell there was a rack up there when Westcott installed their rack. I had a full Safety Devices roof cage rack on my '96 Land Rover Discovery, a half-rack on my 2004 Disco, and a full cage rack on my 2013 LR4. They were noisy as hell. This Westcott rack is a very pleasant surprise.
I bought the front and rear recovery points. Great customer service and shipping was on point.
So far feels like a great company, hopefully they have more GX products in the future.
I've got a question in to Westcott, but thought you might know off-hand. Does the rack when installed stick up much higher than the OT+ rails that it replaces?
It sits lower than the OT cross bars. The Westcott rack actually sits a fraction of an inch lower than the shark fin antenna.
Seems does allright the Toyota Prado (Land Cruiser) does pretty good in a crash.My uneducated answer is that it shouldn't impact crash ratings, BoF trucks don't have crumple zones in the same way unibody vehicles do. If you look under your GX you'll see the frame is pretty close to the front of the vehicle, the plastic and aluminum bumper you replace isn't doing too much.
BoF trucks don't score well in crash tests, however, my buddy who is an automotive engineer says BoF trucks are actually safer in a crash involving lighter unibody vehicles, the unibody cars will act as your crumple zone. His advice is get the heaviest BoF truck you can and don't crash into stationary objects. Again I don't know if this is true but adding more mass to the bumper would help with this logic
